Hi Bill,

I Googled the drives and found this:

http://www.a-m-c.com/download/datasheet/10a8dd.pdf

I think it has a typo saying it has Analog Input.  But it should work with KFLOP pwm outputs.

Regards

TK

 

Just wondering if anyone had done a conversion or interfaced a kflop to run Gravograph new Hermes machine. They made 3 sizes to this machine.

The machine it self is a standard DC servo machine with encoders. So considering using the existing advanced motion controls 10A8DD amps in the control and replacing the closed loop controls ahead of those with a kflop.

Thet board in the unit also controls the variable spindle and other functions so if anyone already reverse engineered control of that might also be helpful. Else I'll have to figure it out.

Thanks

 

Hi Bill,

I Googled the drives and found this:

http://www.a-m-c.com/download/datasheet/10a8dd.pdf

I think it has a typo saying it has Analog Input.  But it should work with KFLOP pwm outputs.

Regards

TK

On 12/10/2016 6:04 AM, Wcarrothers Yahoo wcarrothers@... [DynoMotion] wrote:

 

Just wondering if anyone had done a conversion or interfaced a kflop to run Gravograph new Hermes machine. They made 3 sizes to this machine.

The machine it self is a standard DC servo machine with encoders. So considering using the existing advanced motion controls 10A8DD amps in the control and replacing the closed loop controls ahead of those with a kflop.

Thet board in the unit also controls the variable spindle and other functions so if anyone already reverse engineered control of that might also be helpful. Else I'll have to figure it out.

Thanks

 

I'm pretty sure it is pulsed Input as the input pin is marked pwm and think it said several places on the instructions I saw it was pulse.   If it is analog they suck at labeling their modules as it says pwm and direction labeled pins on the module.  

Once I figure what pins are which on the db connection from the machine are the encoder signals I think the kflop would be a drop in between that and controlling the servo amps.  Now to just find the time.  

B

On Dec 10, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Tom Kerekes tk@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

I Googled the drives and found this:

http://www.a-m-c.com/download/datasheet/10a8dd.pdf

I think it has a typo saying it has Analog Input.  But it should work with KFLOP pwm outputs.

Regards

TK

On 12/10/2016 6:04 AM, Wcarrothers Yahoo wcarrothers@... [DynoMotion] wrote:

 

Just wondering if anyone had done a conversion or interfaced a kflop to run Gravograph new Hermes machine. They made 3 sizes to this machine.

The machine it self is a standard DC servo machine with encoders. So considering using the existing advanced motion controls 10A8DD amps in the control and replacing the closed loop controls ahead of those with a kflop.

Thet board in the unit also controls the variable spindle and other functions so if anyone already reverse engineered control of that might also be helpful. Else I'll have to figure it out.

Thanks

Hi Bill,

I'd bet it is a copy/paste typo.  a-m-c.com drives are really well made close to us here in California.  We took a tour of their facility and they have top of the line Assembly Equipment, QA, etc...

Regards

TK

 

Wow I looked close at that chart to and it does say +-10v analog.  That is messed up.  As I'm sure it's pulse.  I can't believe they would have a typo like that.  

Signal and power section does say

5 – 20 kHz Pulse Width Modulated Digital Input Command (2.5 - 15 V). Duty Cycle Commands The Output Current. 

So probably ok to assume it is correct.  Wonder if they would respond to an email asking. 

Will look into that.   Maybe check in if there is a pluggiable  replacement module to match this out dated / discontinued one.  So I can avoid having to setup  a completely new control board in case one nukes out.  Course they probably last close to forever anyway 

B

On Dec 10, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Wcarrothers Yahoo wcarrothers@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I'm pretty sure it is pulsed Input as the input pin is marked pwm and think it said several places on the instructions I saw it was pulse.   If it is analog they suck at labeling their modules as it says pwm and direction labeled pins on the module.  

Once I figure what pins are which on the db connection from the machine are the encoder signals I think the kflop would be a drop in between that and controlling the servo amps.  Now to just find the time.  

B

On Dec 10, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Tom Kerekes tk@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

I Googled the drives and found this:

http://www.a-m-c.com/download/datasheet/10a8dd.pdf

I think it has a typo saying it has Analog Input.  But it should work with KFLOP pwm outputs.

Regards

TK

On 12/10/2016 6:04 AM, Wcarrothers Yahoo wcarrothers@... [DynoMotion] wrote:

 

Just wondering if anyone had done a conversion or interfaced a kflop to run Gravograph new Hermes machine. They made 3 sizes to this machine.

The machine it self is a standard DC servo machine with encoders. So considering using the existing advanced motion controls 10A8DD amps in the control and replacing the closed loop controls ahead of those with a kflop.

Thet board in the unit also controls the variable spindle and other functions so if anyone already reverse engineered control of that might also be helpful. Else I'll have to figure it out.

Thanks

 

Hi Bill,

I'd bet it is a copy/paste typo.  a-m-c.com drives are really well made close to us here in California.  We took a tour of their facility and they have top of the line Assembly Equipment, QA, etc...

Regards

TK

On 12/10/2016 3:23 PM, Wcarrothers Yahoo wcarrothers@... [DynoMotion] wrote:

 

Wow I looked close at that chart to and it does say +-10v analog.  That is messed up.  As I'm sure it's pulse.  I can't believe they would have a typo like that.  

Signal and power section does say

5 – 20 kHz Pulse Width Modulated Digital Input Command (2.5 - 15 V). Duty Cycle Commands The Output Current. 

So probably ok to assume it is correct.  Wonder if they would respond to an email asking. 

Will look into that.   Maybe check in if there is a pluggiable  replacement module to match this out dated / discontinued one.  So I can avoid having to setup  a completely new control board in case one nukes out.  Course they probably last close to forever anyway 

B

On Dec 10, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Wcarrothers Yahoo wcarrothers@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I'm pretty sure it is pulsed Input as the input pin is marked pwm and think it said several places on the instructions I saw it was pulse.   If it is analog they suck at labeling their modules as it says pwm and direction labeled pins on the module.  

Once I figure what pins are which on the db connection from the machine are the encoder signals I think the kflop would be a drop in between that and controlling the servo amps.  Now to just find the time.  

B

On Dec 10, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Tom Kerekes tk@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

I Googled the drives and found this:

http://www.a-m-c.com/download/datasheet/10a8dd.pdf

I think it has a typo saying it has Analog Input.  But it should work with KFLOP pwm outputs.

Regards

TK

On 12/10/2016 6:04 AM, Wcarrothers Yahoo wcarrothers@... [DynoMotion] wrote:

 

Just wondering if anyone had done a conversion or interfaced a kflop to run Gravograph new Hermes machine. They made 3 sizes to this machine.

The machine it self is a standard DC servo machine with encoders. So considering using the existing advanced motion controls 10A8DD amps in the control and replacing the closed loop controls ahead of those with a kflop.

Thet board in the unit also controls the variable spindle and other functions so if anyone already reverse engineered control of that might also be helpful. Else I'll have to figure it out.

Thanks